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Paul Angelo/ Big Gay Family Reports & Reviews (20)

• Mar 19, 2024

Run as fast as you can from this one man company, that monopolizes on gays insecurities for his profit.

During the past 4 months, I learned about Paul Angelo with Big Gay Family, due to his spamming of Meetup Groups. The first sales pitch was in December, and I knew something was not right. The second sales pitch was last month, and I must admit Paul is an amazing sales person, because I was hooked with a discount.

I had two phone calls with my matches. The first match was in my city, but I could tell he was old, so old he dies his hair. and Paul knew I was not into older men, but he is a believer in only being with older men. The second match was 2,100 miles away, this guy said he has been single for over a year, and never meets anyone in his own city, but he did admit he’s a program advocate. I could not understand him clearly because of his accent, and he was the most boring man ever. It was after this 1st call with the second guy, I emailed Paul and said I will not have future dates with my #2 match, he said I am forced to have two more conversations. Ripoff liar.

After an unscheduled call during my weekend, Paul harassed me for over 20 minutes, about what I must do, and it’s all my fault. This made my decision to dispute my charges with my credit card company. I did that this morning, and as soon as I emailed Paul to tell him, he threatened me with this “I will take you to small claims court.” “Not harassing, just informing.   I am just telling you that the details of all of this will be shared with the judge in a small claims court.   I will be planning to file the claim right after your cc company takes the money out!  You could have addressed this differently - talk with me but you didn't.  You rushed into aggressive actions.  We have a contract and the court system for small claims court will be used, so get ready to explain why you are breaking the contract to the judge.  Good luck, Paul. It’s funny Paul, I don’t have any written contract. Where is it?

• Feb 13, 2024

When you ask for a contract and the "business" says they are too busy to have them, understand there is a problem. This man then follows up with a text message to me saying "I see why you are single- you are controlling". Did he really need to send that text? Why not accept that you did not get the sale because of YOUR business practices? Sounded like a great service, but dont ever go out of your way to be rude when you say that this is something that is totally against your brand and product. SAD!

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• Jan 06, 2024

Overtime, I always somehow bump into this “Big Gay Family” program, that promotes a bubblegum life for those who participate of this “training” that will give you “skills” to succeed finding Mr right.
Nothing wrong with that, if the tactics used by Mr Angelo wasn’t directed to someone’s insecurity, using a judgmental voice to sell to disseminate his “lessons”.
On his “network” he will help you to find MASCULINE, disease free, culturally educated “peers, to meet up for real relationship.
According to the mailing marketing they scream everyone to block a narcissist to join this space - as 90% of the gays carry this sociopath tendency, also blocking closet, bisexuals or hiv positive guys, as those groups are naturally abusive and against gay people.
This group believes that having a sexual preference, being top or a bottom is a problem, not to mention that Paul himself believes that anal sex is wrong and bad for your health and damn you if you feel pleasure on that practice
Overtime, the gays fought hard to get to this point where we don’t have to hide our essence, or who we are, and having a homossexual trying to take advantage of who feel left out of this universe, by promoting an elitism segregation cannot be ignored.
Shame on you Paul Angelo for disregarding those who fought hard to emancipate our community, what in part has been lead by those who endured the early days of hiv epidemic, forcing our people to fight for our rights.
Is not the gays from Grindr that people must fear, but those who profit promoting segregation of any kind.

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• Dec 26, 2023

If Paul truly cares about wanting to help gay men find a loving, successful and committed relationship, he would make the program affordable to people like me. I am disabled and on a fixed income and simply cannot afford this program, as great as it might be.

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• May 04, 2023

I am currently enrolled with Big Gay Family - and my first impression is that the program is well put together. After 5 introductions, I am still talking to the guys and everyone is polite and respectful. The guys are very different than the ones you meet on hookup apps - inside Big Gay Family- they are all educated, employed and better communicators. There are no closeted or bisexual men inside the program. All guys are 100% out and the guys I was introduced to were masculine gay men.
Paul also created a social curriculum, a dating strategy and 30+ tools for intimacy. I have never seen such designs and exercises anywhere else. It sometimes may be overwhelming to use all the tools inside the program, but they definitelly take you deeper if you want that with another person.

To be honest, I have never seen such level of detail about dating. People can be upset with Paul for his view about drag queens and the gay community in general - but he is one of very few gay coaches who is willing to speak the truth about sex addictions, porn, S&M and everything else.

So, before I joined BGF, I was already "sold" on Paul's services because so few gay coaches are willing to be so corageous and open.
When you join Big Gay Family, you also get 5 courses, which are a bonus gift for everyone who joins BGF. This way everyone is learning together and improving ways of interacting and connnecting. Here are the courses:
- Your Perfect Husband
- Your Perfect Dating Sequence
- Gay Compatibility Formula
- Sex On Rocks
- Gay Relationship Mindsets
Those courses are amazing and they are included inside the program. There is no perfect dating service, but Paul's Big Gay Family is one that has everything - matchmaking, coaching, courses and a full dating strategy that comes with a social curriculum.
10 years of work shows in the quality of his methods. So, I am fully on board and I do prefer the style that Paul promotes via Big Gay Family - it is a quite different way of meeting men!
Thanks,Eric

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Unfortunately I fell for his scam, but not without initial skepticism. Essentially, he will "discount" your rate if you're on the fence about signing up because it's a lot of money per month, somewhere around $500, if I recall correctly. Once you sign up, you have to agree not to talk about specific topics with the person/people you're matched with, such as the other person's experience with Paul Angelo and the other person's location. This should be a red flag for anyone considering giving him money. I was matched with someone over 1000 miles away, so there's that. My match was also given the same "discounted" rate. The other person felt the same way that I did. Save yourself the money and time and go join a local gay volunteer group or social club.

I laugh at the response from Paul himself on here. So unprofessional, it's sad. Hopefully this helps others avoid being scammed as well. He's just name calling and trying to dismiss everyone who recognizes him for what he is as narcissists and psychotics. He probably doesn't even have legitimate credentials.

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Something may have changed since March, but as of December 2022 I'm paying many times less and the prohibited topics for the *first month* with your matches are: politics, sex, money, and age. Our locations and our experience with Paul and the program are usually the first things that have come up in my conversations with guys in the program. I've never been told we could not talk about those things. The four guys I'm talking to so far seem to love it as well.

BGF 2022-2023 Participant

I love the program and have been with Paul's service for over 3 years now and met over 30 men and have amazing relationships with all of them. I never meet people outside of the service and I get monthly introductions and love the process that Paul designed.
These reviews are from non-members and it seems that one person was given access to introductions and then realized he was not a good fit for the program.

It is not a secret that most gay men are damaged and shamed. They say they want relationships but in reality, they are only looking for sex. Paul knows that and he designed the program so that those guys are filtered out.

Introductions are based on a family model which is a mixture of local and nonlocal introductions and everyone is fine with that. Those who complain are not interested in relationships - they are interested in sex only. They don't follow the design of the program and are asked to leave or are kicked out automatically.

Everyone I met loves the program and once in a while, someone complains. Those people are either sex addicts or broken men who are narcissists or have no capacity for emotional connections which is the foundation for the program. And they come here and complain anonymously.

This whole anonymous business is a perfect copy of Grindr and the hookup apps - honesty is not here, only hidden complaints and lies. Paul's program is state of the art and everyone loves it!

As the founder of Big Gay Family I have turned away and banned over 1,000 people from entering the program since 2010. Narcissists, entitled addicts, neurotics and shamed predators always complain. Psychotic and sex addicted individuals complain without taking responsibility for their actions. They say they want love, but in reality all they want is to get f[censored] by big d[censored]. They are logged in to Grindr every day and turn themselves into fist [censored]ers and psychotic BDSM sex addicts. We don't want any of them in Big Gay Family and I will always ban them and turn them away. So they come here and b[censored] about their psychosis.

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• Jan 06, 2024

Let me see if I understood correctly, are you really saying that there was more than 1000 guys interested in your scam and you have banished them? I’m not sure what’s the most disturbing part here, may be your judgmental limited vision that trash those who don’t believe in your moralistic way of being, or your attempts to classify who oppose to you as someone suffering for any mental health conditions. Actually the element that is not only disturbing - but completely outrageous is your narcissist with a strong messiah complex that complicates everything. Maybe instead taking advantage of gay guys you should invest some time managing your own mental health issues.

I’ve been doing the Big Gay Family program for three months, and I can say for certain that there is absolutely nothing about this program that could be considered a scam or in any way harmful to its participants. I’m talking to four different really high quality guys, establishing authentic and surprisingly deep connections in a very short time.

I’m a disciplined and together guy but I have long recognized emotional immaturity in myself when it comes to my romantic life. I’m finally ready to get serious about growing up emotionally and improving my dating outcomes. I feel incredibly lucky that I stumbled upon Paul‘s program at this moment in my life when I was ready to benefit from it.

It’s definitely not for everyone. If you can relate to my self-description in the paragraph above, and you’re ready to approach this with humility/self-awareness, and a willingness to give up addictive habits, you owe it to yourself to check it out.

It has been life-changing for me in a very short time. I think of Paul Angelo as my Eastern European Olympic coach. (1:1 coaching every two weeks plus many dozens of exceptional online classes he has recorded.) He can be abrasive, but he is Olympic level. His program feels like an experiment crafted by a top-tier university research lab with the goal of improving gay men‘s long-term dating outcomes.

PS Assuming the comment above was written by Paul, I invite you to reread it in the accent of an intense Slavic genius who is impatient to wake you up and show you a better way. Search for his videos on YouTube to get a sense of his vibe and the depth and quality of his approach.

BGF 2022-2023 Participant

I joined a meetup group run by Paul and Mark. They were having a sexuality workshop which seemed interesting so I registered. In the registration process I was sent to the biggayfamily.com website and asked to log in using Facebook. I never received the zoom link for the workshop. Instead, my Facebook account was hacked and my birthday changed so now I can't use my Facebook account or my meetup account. Stay away from Paul and Mark. They are predators.

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By the way I didn't mention Mark in my earlier remark because I'm not familiar with anyone named Mark. I'm guessing Mark was just there for the Meetup one night sexuality thing most people seem to be mostly complaining about here, rather than the big gay family program itself.

Not questioning that your Facebook account got hacked, but it's very hard for me to believe that Paul would do something so strange and risk his life's work with such an easily traceable crime. Coincidence or an actual scammer spoofing gay family seems more likely to me as Paul has acted with nothing but integrity over the past several months I have participated.

BGF 2022-2023 Participant

The facilitator didn't actually have qualifications in sex behavior or sex psychology. He said things like "Nuns are aggressive because they haven't been [censored]ed." He told an autistic participant that in order for him to be normal he needs to engage in sexual activity with men when he has no credentials in health for non-neurotypical persons. This was appalling and should be shut down. There were many fragile people in the meeting whom I feel are being prayed upon. He preached about how monogamy is a lie and how you should [censored] whom you want. The workshop was supposed to be on sex psychology. He also shared his conspiracy theories on AZT killing people with AIDs. That is not what this workshop is about. He is taking advantage of people and this should be shut down, as this is misleading. This group and class was one person's opinion, who has no actual credentials on the subject except his shocking use of sexual words to gain attention and focus and his personal sexual appetite.

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Paul just put out a video where he describes monogamy as the highest ideal, though he states men must become ready for monogamy through a process of individuation and socialization, which likely does not complete before the age of 40.

https://youtu.be/UNhM8-qp84Q

You may or may not agree with his perspective, but I encourage you to watch this and other videos of his to see the level of quality and nuance in his work, as compared to that implied by many of the comments here.

Also, just to be clear, it sounds like what most commenters here are critiquing were one-off free meetup events that were opportunities to promote the “big gay family“ program, but once in the BGF program there are no such group workshops… Everything is one on one… One-on-one coaching with Paul, and one-on-one interactions with the other guys you’re matched with in the program. So even if these workshops were not very good, they’re not really relevant measures of the quality of the Bgf program.

Opposing monogamy does not seem consistent with Paul's program at all, so I'm going to ask him about this in my next coaching call with him.

Regarding the comment you say he made to the guy with autism, by coincidence that is my area of expertise. It doesn't surprise me that Paul may have delivered that line to him in a way that seemed shocking to you if you believe people with Autism need to be treated with kid gloves, but my experience teaching and job-coaching young adults with autism is that (1) they can handle clear direct blunt feedback *better* than most neurotypical Americans and (2) getting a girlfriend or boyfriend, and exploring sexuality, produces more psychosocial advancement in their lives than any other type of "intervention" I have seen.

That being said, if you see yourself as fragile / vulnerable to the point that you cannot handle blunt feedback about areas of your life in which you may be blind, Paul is probably not the right life/dating coach for you.

This person pretends to be someone else and takes over underused online groups as admin, leaves the shell of the group to attract new users but just spams the members with links to join his dating site. Paul/Mark also personally contacted me to tell me they have my photo and name.

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Your name and photo come over automatically anytime you sign up for a group on Meetup or on Facebook. Paul is an intense dude whose first language is not English, so it doesn't surprise me that him mentioning this fact may have made you uncomfortable in your conversation, but I presume he didn't call you to scare you but to pitch the program, yes?

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