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• Jul 14, 2023

I'm the victim of theft by deception/fraud/scamming situation. It is a highly complicated and layered story, but I will do my best to be as clear and concise as possible in writing.

I met a guy named Josh online through a dating site called Tinder in February 2022. We got close, and in March 2022, he allegedly began helping displaced Ukrainian families, and I began to help him financially. That same month he came down with COVID and became "deathly ill" for eight months – or so I thought. For eight months, I couldn't talk to him. Still, I kept in touch through his assistant, "Charlie," whom Josh described as OCD, autistic, and emotional (this is only relevant because these qualities were used to differentiate her from Josh and to excuse "her" behavior that would take place throughout the next several months), and sometimes his accountant, "Jenn" would message me asking for money too – this was all done through Josh's cellphone number.

"Charlie" would message me asking for money for the Ukrainian families, for Josh's medical bills to pay for specific procedures (he was being put on experimental drugs for COVID treatment, and in May, he had to have throat surgery and couldn't talk – for six months!), and his mortgage needed to be paid. I was constantly being told his parents needed money because they would lose their house or were behind on bills, Josh's mom didn't get her social security check for some reason, etc., and "Charlie" would often ask for money too, and so much more. I cared about this guy, so I helped all of them. "Charlie" would panic text me at all hours, telling me that Josh wasn't doing well and that his dad was having heart problems over the stress of everything (I gave his dad money to see a doctor for his heart.)

It wasn't until November 2022 that I finally realized I was being lied to. In mid-November, "Charlie" told me Josh was still in the hospital and would be moved to a "government-run rehab facility" in mid-December; he was doing okay but not great. The week of Thanksgiving, I get a frantic text from Charlie saying that Josh's dad is in tears because the person who was going to buy one of their family's cars backed out, and now, they won't have money to pay their mortgage and one of Josh's medical bills, so of course, I send money. A few days later, I was on Instagram and saw a familiar-looking guy on a local tattoo shop site - it was Josh! He just got a new tattoo! It turns out he hasn't been as sick as I was led to believe he was. How could a guy sick with COVID and highly immunocompromised for 8-months be well enough to get a tattoo? (I later found out he got two tattoos around this time – he had been fine for a while.)

From here, I try getting information from his parents, I drive over to their house to see if he's there, but no one comes out. I manage to get them on the phone, though, and they try telling me he's still in the hospital and they haven't gotten to see him yet. His dad is in panic mode, trying to tell me Josh works for the government, so they can't tell me what hospital he's staying at, but that they will have him call me as soon as they can. Josh later calls me and tells me he didn't mean to lie and that he's doing better; it was just a misunderstanding (he has excuses for everything). From there on out, he blocked me from social media, and in December, we tried talking things out, but I couldn't get past the lies.

I tell Josh that to make things right, he and his family, and "Charlie," if she is real, need to give me all my money back, and Josh proceeds to tell me that every time he asked me for money, I told him not to worry about it and that the money was a gift. I then pointed out that every time HE asked me for money, it was done as "Charlie," so I guess that meant "Charlie" didn't exist. Then, I asked Josh who would show up as "Charlie" and "Jenn" if I were to take him and his parents to court. Suddenly he wanted to meet and talk in person to work things out, but I wanted no part of that because I didn't feel safe. Following, he agrees to pay me back "when he can," but I tell him that after everything he and his family put me through, "when I can" will not work for me. If I work out a deal with someone who defrauded me out of money under false pretenses, we're signing something, and he will pay me back lump sums over time, and I wasn't going to drag this out forever. He didn't like that, and he and his family blocked me from everything, and I haven't received a dime.

I don't believe he owns a legitimate business. He claimed to have a business partner named Elan who was running the business while he was allegedly in the hospital, and when I reached out to this man, his lawyer reached out and denied having any involvement in any business dealings with Josh ever. I think Josh and his parents use tragedies (e.g., the Ukrainian-Russian conflict) to collect "donations" from people to help pay for their financial problems. Josh was in the middle of a costly lawsuit with his last employer (CBDfx) when I met him, lost a lot of money in a crypto-scam according to his Twitter page, and often complained of having money issues, so he had motive to do what he did - but no excuses. He's manipulative, and I fear he and his parents are doing this to other people and probably have been doing this for a long time. There may be more involved.

(This exchange and all the proof are all through text messages, which is 470 pages worth, so it's a lot to upload.)

Money was all done through bank account transfers, cc, debit, PayPal and venmo.

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